Unusual functions of cheap parts

Rich Grise · Nov 28, 2005

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 00:43:52 -0800, Bob Monsen wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:49:24 -0500, Jon Yaeger wrote:

Take apart a couple of D cell carbon-zinc batteries.

Wash off the carbon rods. Put each in a wooden clothes pin and connect the
attached ends to the mains voltage (US customers only, please).

Tap the free ends of the rods together. Move them apart as necessary. Very
bright! Much brighter than you are.

One of the MIT EE course videos on the web shows a demonstration of AC
across a pickle... it is an interesting effect. Not sure how the pickle
tastes afterward. Cooking hotdogs with AC is similar, but the pickle gives
off a much nicer translucent flickering glow. Very pretty.

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

Thanks,
Rich

John Perry · Nov 28, 2005

Rich Grise wrote:

...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Nov 28, 2005

Jim Thompson skrev:

On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:13:38 -0500, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@us.ibm.com> wrote:

Si Ballenger wrote:

I would put a 100 watt lamp in series thereby limiting the current. I
would shave the ends down to points so they heated up rapidly. I put
them into a hollowed out fire brick and made a cheap furnace. Of course
don't look at it; it's like looking at the sun.

The current limiter I saw used a glass pie pan with pieces copper
metal on each side with salty water as the electrolyte. It would
start to steam some when in operation. The furnace was a small
clay flower pot with holes in each side with the carbon rods
sticking inside until they touched.

As a boy, I used an electric teakettle as a ballast for a two-D-cell carbon
arc lamp--worked great.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

I've used a light bulb in series with a rectifier to charge a car
battery (just make sure that line ground goes to chassis ground ;-)

I've seen several speakers where there was a light bulb, in series with
the tweeter, as a power limiter

-Lasse

Jim Thompson · Nov 28, 2005

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:48:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, the renowned John Perry
jp@no.spam> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Recipe? ;-) It's getting into soup/curry/stew weather here in the
frozen* north.

* Actually just cold nasty rain, but there was some snow earlier this
week.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Expect more nasty weather... it's heading your way. Here on Saturday
night... very windy, Sunday night plunged to about 25°F.

Got in the wife's car on Saturday and backed out into the street, and
commented, "Why is the AC blowing warm air?"

Wife replies, " I don't know, it did that for awhile yesterday, too."

I pushed the Ambient button on the dash... it was 65°F outside...
winter has arrived in Arizona ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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Spehro Pefhany · Nov 28, 2005

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, the renowned John Perry
<jp@no.spam> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Recipe? ;-) It's getting into soup/curry/stew weather here in the
frozen* north.

* Actually just cold nasty rain, but there was some snow earlier this
week.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Jim Thompson · Nov 28, 2005

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:03:28 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:48:02 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:48:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, the renowned John Perry
jp@no.spam> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Recipe? ;-) It's getting into soup/curry/stew weather here in the
frozen* north.

* Actually just cold nasty rain, but there was some snow earlier this
week.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Expect more nasty weather... it's heading your way. Here on Saturday
night... very windy, Sunday night plunged to about 25°F.

Got in the wife's car on Saturday and backed out into the street, and
commented, "Why is the AC blowing warm air?"

Wife replies, " I don't know, it did that for awhile yesterday, too."

I pushed the Ambient button on the dash... it was 65°F outside...
winter has arrived in Arizona ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Ha. Well, there's a nice dry maple log in the fireplace, an ice-cold
Sapporo in one of my Royal Selangor double-wall frozen pewter
tankards, my VHDL code is working with minimal tweaking and all is
right with the world. ;-)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany · Nov 29, 2005

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:48:02 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:48:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, the renowned John Perry
jp@no.spam> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Recipe? ;-) It's getting into soup/curry/stew weather here in the
frozen* north.

* Actually just cold nasty rain, but there was some snow earlier this
week.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Expect more nasty weather... it's heading your way. Here on Saturday
night... very windy, Sunday night plunged to about 25°F.

Got in the wife's car on Saturday and backed out into the street, and
commented, "Why is the AC blowing warm air?"

Wife replies, " I don't know, it did that for awhile yesterday, too."

I pushed the Ambient button on the dash... it was 65°F outside...
winter has arrived in Arizona ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Ha. Well, there's a nice dry maple log in the fireplace, an ice-cold
Sapporo in one of my Royal Selangor double-wall frozen pewter
tankards, my VHDL code is working with minimal tweaking and all is
right with the world. ;-)

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Martin · Nov 29, 2005

Am Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:14:17 GMT schrieb Rich the Newsgroup Wacko
<gfy@example.net>:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:49:24 -0500, Jon Yaeger wrote:

Take apart a couple of D cell carbon-zinc batteries.

Wash off the carbon rods. Put each in a wooden clothes pin and connect
the
attached ends to the mains voltage (US customers only, please).

Tap the free ends of the rods together. Move them apart as necessary.
Very
bright! Much brighter than you are.

I put mine in series with Mom's iron, but the thermostat kept turning
it off.
One time I used an old Iron as a dummy-load for a 230V/1kW TRIAC power

control circuit (we had it in the lab for improvised BGA soldering). To
"satisfy" the thermostat I used a 30cm room fan.

--
Martin

Jon Yaeger · Nov 29, 2005

<snip>

I've seen several speakers where there was a light bulb, in series with
the tweeter, as a power limiter

-Lasse

I once owned a Knight transistorized amp that used incandescent bulbs in the
output stage to limit current. When you had some brighteness, you had a
problem.

I remember that it was the very worst-sounding amplifier that I ever owned.

jon

Rich Grise, Plainclothes · Nov 29, 2005

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, John Perry wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

You must have to cook the bejabbers out of them - I chopped up a dill
pickle once into a stew I was concocting from leftovers ane expired stuff
in the pantry, and it was kind unnerving every time I bit into a pickle
chunk. Or maybe I didn't chop them finely enough. (more like I "cubed"
them.) My Mom [RIP] used to put weiners and sweet pickles through the meat
grinder. Simultaneously. I refused to even taste the stuff. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

Rich Grise, Plainclothes · Nov 29, 2005

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:48:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, the renowned John Perry
jp@no.spam> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Recipe? ;-) It's getting into soup/curry/stew weather here in the
frozen* north.

* Actually just cold nasty rain, but there was some snow earlier this
week.

Recipe? For _STEW_??!!?????

You brown some meat, throw it into a pot with some veggies, add enough
water so it doesn't boil dry, cover it, and simmer it until it starts to
smell like food. ;-)

(Then again, I used to watch Mom cook. ;-) )

Cheers!
Rich

Tim Williams · Nov 29, 2005

"Jon Yaeger" <jono_1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:BFB132A4.43C18%jono_1@bellsouth.net...

I once owned a Knight transistorized amp that used incandescent bulbs
in the output stage to limit current. When you had some brighteness,
you had a problem.

I remember that it was the very worst-sounding amplifier that I ever
owned.

Heh heh. I have a Knight kit-built amp that glows too, but that's a bias
problem in the tube output...

....No, I don't use it regularly...

Tim

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Spehro Pefhany · Nov 29, 2005

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:23:06 GMT, the renowned "Rich Grise,
Plainclothes Hippie" <fff@example.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, John Perry wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

You must have to cook the bejabbers out of them - I chopped up a dill
pickle once into a stew I was concocting from leftovers ane expired stuff
in the pantry, and it was kind unnerving every time I bit into a pickle
chunk. Or maybe I didn't chop them finely enough. (more like I "cubed"
them.) My Mom [RIP] used to put weiners and sweet pickles through the meat
grinder. Simultaneously. I refused to even taste the stuff. ;-)

Thanks!
Rich

I think I remember something like that, maybe with ground beef.

Here's a recipe for 'Solianka' soup with dill pickle, pickle juice and
a bunch of hearty stuff. They might make it differently in Tartarstan
though (home of Tartar sauce, I presume):

http://soup.allrecipes.com/AZ/SoliankaRussianBeefSoup.asp

From other recipes for Solyanka (or however it's spelt/spelled) the
common factors are beef broth, pickles, olives, capers, onions, garlic
and some kind of meat-- other winter veggies are fair game. And a
dollop of sour cream.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
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John Perry · Nov 29, 2005

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:23:06 GMT, the renowned "Rich Grise,
Plainclothes Hippie" <fff@example.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, John Perry wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

You must have to cook the bejabbers out of them - I chopped up a dill
pickle once into a stew I was concocting from leftovers ane expired stuff
...
From other recipes for Solyanka (or however it's spelt/spelled) the
common factors are beef broth, pickles, olives, capers, onions, garlic
and some kind of meat-- other winter veggies are fair game. And a
dollop of sour cream.

Well, Galya's was all vegetable except for a cube or two of bouillon (I
don't know what kind). She had chopped the vegetables so finely that I
didn't notice the pickles until she showed me the jar she took them from
(I couldn't understand her description of "spiced cucumbers"

.

I don't know how she made it, since I had put her son, my step-grandson,
to work with me raking a ton or so of oak leaves from my six 100+-foot
trees.

Even a lovely season like autumn has its price.

John Perry

Highland Ham · Nov 29, 2005

I pushed the Ambient button on the dash... it was 65°F outside...
winter has arrived in Arizona ;-)
==========================

Winter ? That's a comfortable Summer temp. here in northern Scotland.

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

Jorgen Lund-Nielsen · Nov 29, 2005

Winfried Salomon wrote:

Hello Jorgen,

Jorgen Lund-Nielsen wrote:

[.....]

2N2369 for fast pulses.

btw, do you know a standard complementary pnp-transistor for the 2N2369,
such like 2N3905 but with higher ft and less feedback capacitance? It
seems that the manufactorers have almost no data on their internet pages.

mfg. Winfried

Maybe 2N4261 ? Have not looked into the datasheet, but as i remember,
i have seen them sometimes in complementary with the 2N2369

Jorgen

Henning Paul · Nov 29, 2005

Spehro Pefhany schrieb:

I think I remember something like that, maybe with ground beef.

You mean Labskaus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labskaus

Here in Bremen/Germany we usually leave away the fish and use just Corned
Beef (the brazilian Corned Beef is just fine). And sometimes, you find
diced pickles in it. Tastes even better, then.

regards
Henning
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Spehro Pefhany · Nov 29, 2005

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:30:31 GMT, the renowned "Rich Grise,
Plainclothes Hippie" <fff@example.com> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:48:05 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:52 -0500, the renowned John Perry
jp@no.spam> wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
...

But who wants a cooked pickle? ;-)

My ethnic Russian daughter-in-law, just arrived from Tatarstan, made a
Russian soup, into which she chopped several dill pickles.

Wonderful stuff!

John Perry

Recipe? ;-) It's getting into soup/curry/stew weather here in the
frozen* north.

* Actually just cold nasty rain, but there was some snow earlier this
week.

Recipe? For _STEW_??!!?????

You brown some meat, throw it into a pot with some veggies, add enough
water so it doesn't boil dry, cover it, and simmer it until it starts to
smell like food. ;-)

I know how to make stew, without a recipe, but it wouldn't taste like
Russian stuff with capers, olives and pickles. I guess you have to
make it only from stuff that would be available in the Russian
countryside in February, and spice it up with the appropriate
crunchy/salty bits.

(Then again, I used to watch Mom cook. ;-) )

Cheers!
Rich

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Spehro Pefhany · Nov 29, 2005

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:00:50 +0100, the renowned Henning Paul
<henningpaul@gmx.de> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany schrieb:

I think I remember something like that, maybe with ground beef.

You mean Labskaus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labskaus

Noo.... I think I would have remembered something which looked like
*that*.

Here in Bremen/Germany we usually leave away the fish and use just Corned
Beef (the brazilian Corned Beef is just fine). And sometimes, you find
diced pickles in it. Tastes even better, then.

regards
Henning

Sounds basically like corned beef hash with sides of fried egg, pickle
and perhaps rollmop herring. Though more gooey with mashed potatoes
used rather than chopped.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Oliver Betz · Nov 29, 2005

Henning Paul <henningpaul@gmx.de> wrote:

You mean Labskaus?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labskaus

Uh, real Labskaus doesn't contain fish. And the picture is
unappetizing.

Oliver
--
Oliver Betz, Muenchen (oliverbetz.de)

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